they're not in north carolina because they know that is going to be romney country. so, again, they're talking points sound good but when you look at the reality where they're putting their candidates and top surrogates and putting their money, there is no question they're on defense and governor romney's intensity and enthusiasm for governor romney and paul ryan is what is driving us to be able to expand into these states and it is not about 270 anymore for us, jon. this is about 300, 310, 315. jon: you think you can get that many votes? all right. >> jon, i tell you when you go out on the road and see some size of crowds out there and people waiting in the cold for hours on end just to hear and see governor romney or paul ryan it is unbelievable. the enthusiasm that you see on the ground, number phone calls that people are willing to make or go knock on their neighbors doors, i never seen anything like it. jon: we'll see what happens starting tomorrow. i have a feeling that will take a few days to get the thing ironed out. >> i feel good about it. it will be a grea